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President Obama Presents the International Women of Courage Award

March 29, 2014 | 2:22 | Public Domain

President Obama presents the State Department's 2014 International Women of Courage Award to Dr. Maha Al Muneef. The award is presented annually women who are doing extraordinary work around the world advocating on behalf of women, children, and families.

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Remarks by the President in Presenting State Department's 2014 Women of Courage Award to Dr. Maha Al Muneef

Ritz Carlton
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
 

THE PRESIDENT:  For the press, I just wanted to let everybody know Dr. Al Muneef was a recipient of the International Women of Courage Award that the State Department annually presents to women who are doing extraordinary work around the world advocating on behalf of women, children, and families.  She was not able to attend because of family health issues, but we were aware of the fact that we’d be able to see her here today to personally present the award. 

I’m doing this on behalf of Michelle Obama, who normally is the presenter, and I know that Dr. Al Muneef is disappointed that it’s me instead of Michelle -- appropriately so.  (Laughter.)  But Dr. Maha Al Muneef has been able to not only set up services here in the kingdom, but also, more importantly in some ways, been able to pass laws providing protections for women and children for domestic abuse and to provide a safe space and shelter for those who are suffering from domestic abuses.

And so to see the kind of progress that’s been made, her ability to work with the kingdom to persuade many that this is an issue that’s going to be important to the society over the long term, I think makes this award fully justified.  And so we’re very, very proud of you and grateful for all the work you’re doing here and I’m looking forward to seeing you do even more wonderful things in the future.

DR. AL MUNEEF:  Thank you.  (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you so much.  And she has wonderful children who are over there taking pictures.  She’s very proud of them. 

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The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

Remarks by the President in Presenting State Department's 2014 Women of Courage Award to Dr. Maha Al Muneef

Ritz Carlton
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
 

THE PRESIDENT:  For the press, I just wanted to let everybody know Dr. Al Muneef was a recipient of the International Women of Courage Award that the State Department annually presents to women who are doing extraordinary work around the world advocating on behalf of women, children, and families.  She was not able to attend because of family health issues, but we were aware of the fact that we’d be able to see her here today to personally present the award. 

I’m doing this on behalf of Michelle Obama, who normally is the presenter, and I know that Dr. Al Muneef is disappointed that it’s me instead of Michelle -- appropriately so.  (Laughter.)  But Dr. Maha Al Muneef has been able to not only set up services here in the kingdom, but also, more importantly in some ways, been able to pass laws providing protections for women and children for domestic abuse and to provide a safe space and shelter for those who are suffering from domestic abuses.

And so to see the kind of progress that’s been made, her ability to work with the kingdom to persuade many that this is an issue that’s going to be important to the society over the long term, I think makes this award fully justified.  And so we’re very, very proud of you and grateful for all the work you’re doing here and I’m looking forward to seeing you do even more wonderful things in the future.

DR. AL MUNEEF:  Thank you.  (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you so much.  And she has wonderful children who are over there taking pictures.  She’s very proud of them. 

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

Press Briefing by Senior Administration Officials on the President's Bilateral Meeting with His Majesty King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Marriott Courtyard
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

10:32 P.M. AST

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  My colleague will go ahead and give a readout of the meeting, and then we'll take your questions.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  The President had an excellent, more than two-hour meeting with King Abdullah.  And it was really an opportunity for the President to sit down face-to-face with the King and, more than anything, do two things:  One is underscore the importance of the bilateral relationship with Saudi Arabia, and the other was to talk about some of the key regional issues that affect both of our interests so profoundly.

The President underscored how much he values the strategic relationship.  The United States has had an important relationship with Saudi Arabia for decades on security, energy, economics, and regional security issues.  And the President wanted to make clear that he believes that continues to be the case.

There’s sometimes a perception out there of differences between the United States and Saudi Arabia, and the two leaders spoke frankly about a number of issues and what might be or might have been tactical differences or differences in approaching some of these issues, but they stressed, and President Obama made very clear that he believes that our strategic interests remain very much aligned.

When you think about our commitments to the region and to Saudi Arabia, that we are committed to defending our friends and allies in the region from external aggression, our agenda puts nonproliferation of weapons of mass destruction high on the list. Countering terrorism in the region and ensuring the secure flow of energy out of the region -- those are core American interests and they’re very much aligned with Saudi Arabia’s interests.  And it was, again, an excellent chance for the President to sit down face-to-face with the King and talk about that.

They also, as I mentioned, discussed regional security and political issues -- a wide number of them, but maybe I'll focus primarily on Iran and Syria, which they spent significant time on.  And once again, it was a good opportunity for the President, on Iran, to underscore what we are doing in the nuclear negotiations, what our objectives are, and to make clear to the King -- and via the King, Saudi Arabia -- that we're determined to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon; that we've gone into the talks eyes wide open, but we believe that this is a common interest in stopping proliferation to Iran; that the arrangements in place now have halted Iran’s nuclear program and set it back in important respects, which gives us time to negotiate in the P5-plus-1 to reach a comprehensive solution that meets the criteria that I mentioned, of stopping Iran from having a weapon, and ensuring that its program is exclusively peaceful; and again, to sit down with the King and assure him that that's the objective, that we won't accept a bad deal; and that the focus on the nuclear issue doesn’t mean we are not concerned about or very much focused on Iran’s other destabilizing activities in the region, which the Saudis and the King are also concerned about.  Iran’s meddling in other countries in the region, its support for terrorism -- these are things that we’ve made clear across the board that will not go away, but we believe, and the President was able to explain that dealing with the nuclear issue doesn’t mean not focus on those things, and stopping Iran from a nuclear weapon itself will curb Iran’s ability to continue its destabilizing activities throughout the region.

Now, one of the destabilizing activities Iran is undertaking in the region, we believe, is its support for the Assad regime in Syria, which is another big topic between the two leaders.  As I think you all know, King Abdullah feels very passionately about Syria and the tragic humanitarian situation there, as obviously does President Obama -- and once again, an opportunity to sit down face-to-face.  We’ve actually cooperated well and extensively with the Saudis on the question of Syria.  We share the objective of bringing about a political transition.  We share the objective of supporting the moderate opposition and isolating extremists and terrorists.  And we not only share objectives, but we’ve been working together very well and increasing our cooperation, which I think is, indeed, getting better and better.

So it was an opportunity not only to underscore that we’re trying to get to the same place, but some of the ways that we are doing it.

They discussed a number of other topics as well, but I’ll just end with the -- getting back to the core point that I stressed at the start -- the President has been in touch with the King numerous times through meetings, phone calls, exchanges of information, and obviously dialogue among senior officials.  But there’s nothing like a face-to-face meeting, and that’s why it was a priority for the President to actually come here.  The King was very gracious; hosted him for, like I said, a good, long meeting.  And I think it just underscores the importance we, at least, place on this relationship.

Q    Can you talk about the degree to which the King and the President discussed in specifics MPADS through Saudi to the Syrian rebels?  And can you be as declarative as possible as to whether or not the administration is revisiting that issue and is now more open to it than, say, it was a couple of months ago?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Well, I’ll start with the latter and try to be as declarative as possible that our approach on that issue hasn’t changed.  Without getting into the specifics of how we feel about this or that weapons system, or different types of assistance that may be provided to the opposition, I think you’ve heard us before in a number of different contexts explain concerns about certain types of weapons systems that could be part of a proliferation that would not serve our interest.  And we’ve expressed that, and those concerns haven’t changed.

Where the meeting is concerned -- again, without getting into the details of what they discussed -- this was not a trip or a meeting designed to coordinate detailed questions of types of assistance to the Syrians --

Q    It was not?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  No, the President didn’t come here to do what his senior officials do and intelligence and military channels do.  He came here to do the strategic discussion that I underscored about our objectives and our commitments.

Q    And as a follow-up, did the King bring that up -- the MPADS and giving more assistance to the Syrian rebels?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  No, it wasn’t a technical, detailed discussion of types of weapons. 

Q    On Iran, what did the King -- did the King seem convinced of what the President said about Iran -- the nuclear deal?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Look, I don’t want to speak for the King or his reaction.  He listened very carefully.  And like I said, what was important about this meeting is obviously we’ve explained to the Saudis, they know what our position is, but there’s nothing like the person who’s responsible for driving and making this policy to come down and sit face-to-face with the King and patiently and carefully walk him through what we’re doing and what the objective is.

And I think -- again, I can’t speak for the King’s -- what he took away or his response.  But I think it was important to have the chance to look him in the eyes and explain how determined the President is to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, and how determined the President is to continue to counter Iran’s other destabilizing activities, and that the President and the United States are going into this eyes wide open, there’s no naïveté.

Q    The decision on MPADS aside, has your view of the opposition evolved over time?  Do you see elements of the opposition that are in better position or are more trustworthy?  And did the King identify the kinds of opposition factions that would be of help?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Well, I’ll say a few things and then my colleague may want to add.  I think that it is the  case that over time we have been able to develop deeper relationships with the opposition.  Part of that simply comes with the fact of providing assistance.  You build relationships when you are working with people.  And we've also sought to bring together and harmonize the approaches of different countries in the region -- so the United States and Saudi Arabia, but also other Gulf countries, other European allies -- with the objective being strengthening the moderate opposition, but also providing assistance in a way that is complementary, so the sum is greater than the parts in terms of how we are able to strengthen the opposition as a political and military entity.

So these are relationships that have been built up over the course of the last year or two as our assistance relationship has continued.  We have confidence in the moderate opposition in Syria.  And, frankly, the emergence of some more extremist elements within the opposition I think only reinforces the need to strengthen, again, a more moderate opposition as a counterweight both to Assad, of course, and also to those extremist elements.

But I don't know if you want to characterize.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  No, I mean, just maybe on the coordination piece.  It's not just a question of amounts of assistance that go to the opposition.  But one of the things we've stressed and tried over time to do is coordinate better with our partners.  Because everybody knows there are a lot of different opposition groups in Syria -- they’re not always on the same page working together, and they’re not going to be effective -- at least we can effectively coordinate our opposition and try to lead them in the same direction.

And that's why I said in the opening, I believe that that --it’s always going to be challenging, but we've made a real priority of working with our partners who are also leaders in providing support to the opposition.  Saudi Arabia is one of those.  And I think it's fair to say that our assistance -- our cooperation on assistance is getting better and better and it's a real priority for both of us.

Q    I just would like to clarify on that last point about harmonization and working with the allies -- even if decisions were not made at this particular meeting, are you taking steps to expand the training and equipping of the moderate Syrian opposition -- not alone, but in concert with Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and other partners in the region?  If you haven't taken such steps in recent weeks and months, are you planning to do so?  And if you're not planning to do so, what tangible accomplishments have come out of this meeting and the meetings leading up to it?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Well, Michael, first of all, as a general matter, as you know, we don't get into the details of the types of assistance that we provide.  We've been clear that we are working in concert with allies and partners to strengthen the moderate opposition as, again, a military entity that does include military assistance, but we don't get into the specific types of that assistance.

What I would say, though, is we have been improving that coordination and planning with our partners and allies.  When you look at the London 11 group and you look at the discussions that we've had in intelligence and security channels, we have been able to improve the way in which we provide assistance into Syria.  We've been able to come to a more common view about the groups that we provide support to within Syria.  And we've been able to discuss what more effective means are in terms of strengthening them going forward. 

So I would say that we made progress on this in the last several months, particularly from the fall up to now.  And so we feel like we're in a stronger place as a collective group in support of the Syrian opposition today than we were several months ago.

I think this meeting continues to enforce the strategic direction that the United States and Saudi Arabia have in sharing an objective of bringing about a political transition and an end to the Assad regime, but the necessity of providing that assistance to the opposition so that they are a stronger counterweight to the regime.  I think when we are aligned strategically it, again, is in service of the ongoing discussions that we have in those intelligence and security channels about what the best way is for us to coordinate our assistance.

Q    Can I follow?  When you talk about better coordination and understanding between you and the Saudis and the Gulf countries, does that mean that you're absolutely confident that the people the Saudis are arming are the people you vetted, you screened in the opposition?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Well, sure, I'm absolutely confident.  I made the point earlier that it's not just about the amount and types of assistance, but about strengthening the right groups and being most effective about it.  And I don't know if in the situation in Syria you can ever be absolutely confident about anything, but what we're trying to do is agree on who we are trying to help, who we're not trying to help, and take advantage of economies of scale and make the opposition more unified.  So that's what assistance -- that's what coordination of assistance is about.

Q    I mean, the level of coordination, the improvement of coordination gives you more comfort to change the quality of assistance, to give items that you were not wanting to give in the past to the opposition?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Just as a general rule, the more confidence we can have in different groups the more and better assistance we can provide to those groups.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  And just to be slightly more specific, too -- we've raised our concerns publicly and privately about ISIL, about al Nusra, and of course, we've indicated our support for the SMC and the SOC, and we believe that we have a common view in terms of wanting to strengthen the right forces in the country.  And what you’ve seen in recent months is not only has the opposition been fighting against the regime, but they have been in a conflict with some of those more extremist elements, which makes it only that much more urgent for us to be ensuring that they have the support that they need, because, frankly, they’re the alternative to the Assad regime that we have said we want to come to an end, but they’re also the alternative to more extremist elements in the opposition.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  And my colleague mentioning the SOC as well as the SMC is important because this is not just about helping the armed opposition.  You have a relatively unified Assad regime under this dictatorship fighting a vast array of disparate groups both on the armed side and the unarmed side, and if you want any chance of changing the balance such that you’re going to get the political transition that we believe is the only way to bring civility back to Syria, it's only if you can unify those groups in the opposition, both on the armed side and on the civilian side.

So the SOC -- we also have a dialogue with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries about the political opposition, because unless and until they’re unified and backed by the armed side, they’re just not going to be able to change the balance in the right way against the regime.

Q    I asked you the question on Air Force One on the way here about the humanitarian issue, and I'm wondering to what extent that came up?  What did the President tell the King about concerns about the -- I said humanitarian -- human rights issues, I should say, in Saudi Arabia?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Well, the beginning of your question I will pick up on -- you mentioned the humanitarian -- you started with the humanitarian --

Q    I meant to say human rights abuses that many human rights organizations are complaining about, bipartisan members of Congress are complaining about in this country that we have such great relations with.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Well, like I said, this was an opportunity to focus primarily on the importance of the strategic partnership and regional issues.  There were a whole lot of issues on our bilateral agenda that weren’t the focus of this meeting.  I do want to take the opportunity to say -- because you started by talking about humanitarian --

Q    I apologize --

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Okay, well --

Q    Did human rights abuse issues come up at all in the President’s talk?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  The focus of the meeting was strategic and regional topics.

Q    So it did not come up?

Q    We need a yes or a no.

Q    Yes, really.

Q    Did it come up?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  No.

Q    Thank you.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Can I just finish what I wanted to say about the humanitarian thing?  Because I mentioned Syria and I alluded to it, but I want to underscore -- King Abdullah began with that piece and actually showed how pained he is by the humanitarian situation in Syria.  So a significant part of the discussion was not just on what we can do, what we've been talking about here, coordinating our assistance to different groups, but what we can do to help the poor people of Syria.  And that's a high priority for the King; it's a high priority for the President. 

As you all know, the United States is a leading donor of humanitarian assistance.  And I just wanted to be absolutely clear that even as we work on all these other tracks -- chemical weapons, political situation, opposition and so on -- we're not losing sight of what really matters here, which is the fate of the people of Syria and its neighbors.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Let me just add one thing here.  As we said, we raise a range of issues, including human rights, in our regular dialogue with the Saudis, even if it wasn’t a focus of this meeting.  I don't know if our schedule has gone out for tomorrow, but tomorrow morning, the President at our hotel will be able to see the State Department Women of Courage award winner from Saudi Arabia this year, Dr. Maha Al Muneef.

We’ll send this out.  She’s the Executive Director of the National Family Safety Program here in Saudi Arabia.  She’s an advocate against domestic violence.  Over many years, she’s played an instrumental role in raising the profile of the issue here.  And she also played a critical role in landmark legislation that recently passed in Saudi Arabia -- the “Protection from Abuse” law, which for the first time defines and criminalizes domestic violence as it relates to women.

She was not able to attend the Women of Courage award ceremony that Michelle Obama was at in March at the State Department, so the President will be able to give her this award tomorrow in person.  Again, women’s issues is a particular human rights focus for us in our dialogue with the Saudis.  Obviously, religious freedom has been as well.  These issues we’ll continue to raise bilaterally with the Saudis.

Q    Just a quick housekeeping thing.  There seems to be some confusion as to whether or not there was supposed to be a dinner after the bilateral meeting.  Can you clear that up?  The State Department actually tweeted out that there was going to be a dinner.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Yes, no -- there was some discussion of a dinner before we left for the trip, but several days ago, just for logistic reasons and the leaders’ schedules, the decision was made to just have it be a bilat -- you know, we were getting in late.  So I wouldn’t read anything into it other than the fact that that decision was made several days ago.  That’s why it wasn’t on the schedule that we put out last night, the public schedule for today.

They were able to have an over two-hour meeting, so they were fully able to cover a lot of ground.  The King was very gracious for this hospitality.

Q    I’m not trying to make a leap in any direction with this follow-up question, but did the President engage in any -- I know this was a bilateral meeting -- but engage in any discussions with the Crown Prince?  We noticed the breathing tube that the King was using, and he is of advanced age.  I mean, what does the future hold in that regard with respect to this relationship, which obviously would have to continue to go on?  It’s a sensitive question, but --

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Well, no, the King, as my colleague just said -- first of all, the King looked well and sustained a very vigorous discussion about very serious issues with the President.  He was in good spirits, so there really wasn’t an issue there.  The Crown Prince was in the meeting, but it was the President and the King who had the conversation, had the bilateral meeting.

Q    Can you give just a general sense of the tone?  I mean, obviously the Saudis have expressed real concern about U.S. policy in Syria and Iran and Egypt.  Was this in any way tense?  Or was he aggressive in presenting those concerns?  Just a general --

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Again, without speaking for the Saudis, I think the King appreciated the fact that the President came here to see him face-to-face.  He was very gracious.  This was not a contentious meeting.  It was a good meeting.  They really had an open conversation.  They both said, look, it’s important for us to be perfectly honest with each other.  I think the King is known for being frank and honest.  So I’m not going to say he claimed that there were no differences and everything -- that we saw everything eye-to-eye on every single issue.

He was able to articulate his views on Iran and Syria.  I told you how the President articulated our views, which we thought was important so that there are no misunderstandings, so the Saudis or the King don’t think that somehow trying to pursue our interests by stopping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon through diplomacy means that somehow we are naïve about Iran or overlooking some of Iran’s other policies.  So that was important on our side.

The King also -- the King had a chance, in a very frank way, to talk about what he thinks needs to be done in Syria and his perspectives on Iran.  So in that sense, it really was what it was meant to be, which was a chance for these two leaders to sit down face-to-face.  But really, it wasn’t an opportunity to make complaints or express anger in any way.  It was quite the opposite.

Q    What about Egypt?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Egypt also wasn’t a focus.  I mean, two hours may sound like a long time, but with the catching-up to do and then the focus on the regional policy issues in some detail -- which, the ones I mentioned, Iran and Syria, were both very detailed -- they didn’t get to every issue that is important to both of us.  But what they did at the end was, one, note that they didn’t get to every issue and there was so much more to talk about, and asked each other to make sure that their most senior officials continue to communicate -- which they already do, of course.

And like I said, the King has spoken -- the President has spoken to the King on the phone a number of times.  They’ve been exchanging other communications.  But they noted at the end, as important and useful as this long meeting was, there’s so much more to cover, including some of the issues you all have raised.  And they specifically said, let’s have our senior officials really follow up on all of these things.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Let me just follow up.  I mean, I think an important point here is that, on Iran, as we’ve said with Israel, for instance, we understand that given the history of the Saudis’ relation with Iran and their proximity to Iran, that they’re going to be skeptical; that we basically price into the Iranian nuclear negotiations that our Gulf partners are going to be watching with a skeptical eye to make sure that we are getting a good deal.  And that’s appropriate given the fact that a lot of the destabilizing activity that Iran undertakes is right in their neighborhood -- their support for the Houthis in Yemen; some of their destabilizing activities in the Gulf, as well as, of course, their support for Hezbollah.

So the point the President has made repeatedly is that we are interested in getting a deal that meets our concerns, that assures that the program -- the Iranian nuclear program is peaceful.  That, ultimately, would be in the interest of Saudi Arabia and the region, because Iran would be a far more destabilizing force if they had a nuclear weapon.  So ultimately, those talks we believe could yield an outcome that is in service of regional security.  But if we can’t get the outcome we want, the President has made very clear that we’re not going to take a bad deal either.

On Syria, I actually think we’ve been able to channel our efforts into coming together and finding common ground on particularly the question of humanitarian assistance and support for the opposition.  There clearly was some difference about the United States not taking military action inside of Syria.  But we’ve been very clear that, frankly, the objective of the military action we were contemplating was chemical weapons, and those are being dealt with through the removal of chemical weapons that is underway, and ultimately their destruction.

When it comes to the underlying conflict, we, frankly, didn’t believe that there’s a U.S. military option that could bring that conflict to a conclusion and that there needs to be political settlement, but that needs to be reinforced by opposition -- the support for the opposition.  So that’s where we’ve channeled things since the fall, when some of these tensions emerged.

Q    Just a quick one, a quick answer.  You know that we’re going to be asked about it.  You know the American public has questions about human rights in Saudi Arabia, which in some way seem to be getting worse with the passage of those new anti-terror laws.  And the President has spent the last week talking about the rights of the individual, democracy.  He met with the Pope and chastised Putin for ignoring human rights.  So can you just give us an answer as to why it didn’t come up?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Again, I think that the fact of the matter is we have a significant amount of issues with the Saudis.  We’ve had differences in the relationship and convergences on the relationship.  Differences include human rights.  And the fact of the matter is, today, given the extent of time that they spent on Iran and Syria, they didn’t get to a number of issues and it wasn’t just human rights.  They didn’t get to some of the other regional issues that are part of our bilateral relationship as well.

We’ll continue to raise these issues associated with human rights, with reforms here in the Kingdom, on a regular basis in all of our interactions with the Saudis.  The fact is that given the time they had today and given the need to focus intensively on Iran and Syria in particular, they just didn’t get to the full agenda.

Q    Would you agree that the human rights situation here seems to be getting worse in some ways?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Well, I would agree that we would have a lot of -- we do have a lot of significant concerns about the human rights situation that have been ongoing with respect to women’s rights, with respect to religious freedom, with respect to free and open dialogue.  And certainly, some of the recent laws raise questions in those areas of people’s ability to express themselves freely.

We’ve had differences.  So we’ve had differences on human rights as it relates to practices in Saudi Arabia.  We’ve had differences over issues in the region on some of these cases.  I mentioned earlier today the differences that we’ve had with some of the steps that the Egyptian government has taken -- for instance, in detaining journalists; the recent announcement of a fairly shocking number of death sentences.

So we’re going to continue this dialogue.  But the fact of the matter is given the range of security interests that we have in the region, Saudi Arabia has been a longstanding partner, and so we have to be able to both continue working with them on that agenda, even as we’re going to differ on issues related to human rights.

Q    Two things, just so we get it on the record -- did the situation with the Jerusalem Post reporter come up at all?  And, two, the Women of Courage award, is that going to be an open press event or a travel pool event?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  I don’t know the press access.  We’ll get back to you on that.  It’s at the hotel.  It’s not a big, open press event that’s for certain.

Q    But we have a pool over there.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  We’ll check on that and get back to you.  On the Jerusalem Post, look, this is something that Susan has been raising directly with the Saudis.  We have made our views very clear on this.  I don’t believe it came up in the meeting, but this is -- they certainly know our views and our objection to the way in which that situation was handled.

Just a couple more.  Carol.

Q    Can you just kind of sum up your takeaways from this meeting and how relations between the U.S. and the Saudis have changed in the meetings leading up to this meeting and then after this meeting?  Because it sounds like your view on, for instance, assistance to those Syrian rebels has changed in that you’re more willing to give more if it’s going to the right elements of the opposition, and that the U.S. and Saudis are more on the same page about who exactly that opposition is.  Yet, there are still types of things you aren’t willing to do.  And as you know, the AP has a story out saying that you have shifted and are willing to do MANPADS under certain restrictions.  Can you just clarify exactly --

Q    Just directly address that AP story, if you don’t mind.  (Laughter.)

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Look, we have not changed our position on providing MANPADS to the opposition.  We have said it’s a proliferation risk.  So there’s just -- this is not an issue that was discussed.  It was not a part of the meeting, and there’s no change in the U.S. position.  Again, we don’t discuss the details of types of systems, but we have made very clear publicly our concerns about this one particular system because it does have a proliferation risk.  And this wasn’t a focus of the meeting.  There was no discussion about it leading into the meeting.  We, again, have a dialogue on these issues that takes place in security channels, and that’s where it’s going to stay.

But I don’t know if my colleague can address it broader.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Well, yes, the broader thing -- we came here in the face of a perception -- which I know is a perception because I read it in the newspaper on the airplane on the way in here -- of somehow a split between these two longstanding partners.  And that big differences over --

Q    And there was, right?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Sorry?

Q    Well, that’s correct, right?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  No.  I guess -- you asked about takeaway.  I don’t think it is.  The narrative referred to as somehow a big split over a lot of key regional issues and lack of trust and questions, and I think what these couple of hours of conversations demonstrate and what the President wanted to underscore is actually our strategic interests are much more aligned than different -- which, once again, is not to say that we’ve been exactly aligned on all of these issues, which is not particularly surprising, but compared to what we have in common, and even on those issues -- on Iran and Syria -- again, the President with the opportunity to say we are determined to counter their support for terrorism in the region and destabilizing activities -- for the King to hear that directly from the President -- we’re determined to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon; on Syria, we don’t believe there can be stability under the Assad regime, we need to help the people of Syria, we need to support the moderate opposition.

So I think when the leaders have an opportunity to spend so much time talking about these things, I do think it leaves you with a sense that we actually are indeed strategic partners with a lot of interests in common.  I mentioned earlier energy.  Our defense relationship is enormous.  Economic; nonproliferation.  Our defense commitment is solid.  So that’s a takeaway I think is important that we may have different tactical approaches on some very difficult questions, but we remain important core partners.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Sure.  One more over there, yes.

Q    Thanks.  So I just wanted to talk about Iran, because this issue of the President saying that you understand this destabilizing role that Iran is playing.  But there’s a sense here and in the region that Iran’s isolation, diplomatic isolation is ending, that actually -- what is being done to stop that destabilizing force, especially at the moment with the concern in Yemen?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL:  Sure.  Well, let me just say a couple of things.  First of all, the nuclear negotiations are aimed at achieving a very specific objective related to the nuclear program.  I think part of the concern has been that the nuclear negotiations represent a broader rapprochement between the United States and the West and Iran.  But the fact of the matter is that’s not going to be the case if we don’t see changes from Iran and these other areas. 

For instance, all of our sanctions on terrorism-related issues are fully in place with respect to Iran.  In terms of what we do, we’re working against the Assad regime in Syria.  Together with our Gulf partners we are working to support the Yemeni government.  And we’ve worked to at times expose Iranian support as a means of disrupting the types of support that they could provide, whether it’s to the Houthis or other groups around the region. 

We work with a lot of countries in trying to counter Hezbollah’s activities, targeting their financing, intelligence cooperation, strengthening the Lebanese Armed Forces.  So I think on the Hezbollah side of the equation, we have a lot of actions all over the world that are frankly geared at cracking down on Hezbollah’s activities. 

So, again, I think across the board we have a very aggressive set of measures that we’re using to counter Iran’s support for terrorism, to expose and counter its efforts to destabilize countries in the region.  And those are going to be ongoing, and those also depend on the cooperation we have with our partners here.

But at the end of the day, if we can get a diplomatic resolution to the nuclear issue that assures that Iran’s program is peaceful, that’s going to be a good thing.  A nuclear-armed Iran would be far more dangerous in terms of its ability to destabilize the region, to leverage its support for terrorism.  So that’s why we’re so invested in that project.  And I think our view is at the end of the day, if we can achieve that diplomatic resolution that will be good for the security of the Gulf and of the region.  If the Iranians make further changes in their policies as it relates to these other issues, then there may be the prospect of looking at a broader conversation.  But they’re not doing that.

As near as we can tell, their actions in terms of their regional behavior is the same today as it was before these nuclear talks began.  And our efforts to counter those Iranian actions are the same today as they were before the nuclear talks began.  And so that’s a steady state in an issue where I think we have more convergence with the Saudis as a matter of policy than divergence. 

Thanks, everybody.

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President Obama Holds a Press Conference with Prime Minister Renzi

March 28, 2014 | 57:36 | Public Domain

President Obama and Prime Minister Renzi of Italy take questions from the press after a bilateral meeting in Rome.

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Remarks by President Obama and Prime Minister Renzi of Italy in Joint Press Conference

Villa Madama
Rome, Italy

4:18 P.M. CET

PRIME MINISTER RENZI:  Good afternoon, everybody.  Thank you so much.  And obviously, thank you so much, President Obama, because for me it's a very great pleasure to host here in Villa Madama President Obama.  All Italian journalists know very well President Obama is not only the President of the United States, obviously, but for me and my team, is also an inspiration and model.  And so for this reason, I have particularly appreciate this opportunity of meeting.

Now, I speak in Italian.  (As interpreted.)  I wish to thank the United States government for this wonderful opportunity to meet.  I wish to thank President Obama because I think that today’s dialogue not only confirms the fact that there’s a great friendship and a great partnership between our two countries, but it also confirms the fact that considering the crises that we have to face up to, the role of the United States and Europe and Italy is to be a beacon.  We have to safeguard common values and ideals, so cooperation and partnership embrace important international issues and everyday issues.

I'm happy to say that President Obama has taken a bit of time -- will be taking a bit of time to visit some of our monuments and historical places here in Rome, and hopefully Ambassador John Phillips has prepared some wonderful Italian meals for him and I'm sure he'll have a taste of the excellent quality of life in this one and a half days that he'll be spending in our country.

When it comes to Italian lifestyle, I think that next year’s meeting in Milan at the Expo 2015 is going to be of utmost importance.  We're talking there about food, the environment, innovation, and that, of course, is all part of our way of living, and it will be a wonderful opportunity for Italy to host countries from all over the world.

I wish to thank the President of the United States of America for what he said yesterday in Brussels.  The great challenge that’s been thrown out in the relationship between the U.S. and the European Union is a fascinating challenge.  I do think that in Europe we need reforms, but we also need more growth.  I think that Europe must be the place where politics will give hope back to our families. 

We spoke today during our meeting, and the President said this in his address yesterday:  Our grandfathers had to fight for Europe.  The United States had to fight to save democracy in Europe.  And in Europe, there was a fratricidal war.  I know that my mother used to cry before the Berlin Wall, when that boundary fell, when it broke down.  And my generation is the Erasmus generation.  I’m thinking of a future generation where there will be a stronger unification process, and where in Europe there will be peace and stability, but where there will also be growth and the fight against youth unemployment.  We will be investing in our hopes and our prosperity.

So the message delivered yesterday by President Obama was delivered very clearly.  And I think that in the EU semester, during which Italy will have the presidency, we will be delivering the same message.  And, clearly, Italy will work on the reform and process that is underway.  And I don’t think we need to talk further about this.  I can just confirm that we do want to change Italy, because we are convinced of the fact that if we change Italy, we’ll be helping Europe to change as well and we’ll be strengthening our relations with the U.S. evermore. 

So from this standpoint, I do confirm the commitment of our country together with European partners and together with the United States, and in particular in the Mediterranean region.  The Mediterranean is the place that the Romans used to call “Our Sea” -- “Mare Nostrum.”  Maybe it’s not the most appropriate translation.  In other words, in Latin they say, “Mare Nostrum.” But we mean when we say this that there were youngsters who triggered the Arab Spring and, therefore, we need to support all this.  We need to support the desire for freedom and democracy of the Libyans and of the people living in North Africa.  So this is what I mean when I say it’s “our sea,” in particular. 

So I wish to reassure President Obama that we want to work together, especially in those areas where Italy’s presence and impact can be strong.  And I also say that Europe should not consider the Mediterranean as a frontier.  It should be seen as the heart of our political and cultural and moral actions. 

Now, I also wish to underscore that the relations between the United States and the European Union and Italy are still strong, despite the difficult moment in connection with the Ukrainian crisis.  President Obama and the European nations in the G7 meeting discussed, in fact, the crisis in Ukraine, and we shared the view that we do not uphold the decisions made by Russia.  This goes against international law.  And we tried to convey a message showing our unity, our strength and our great concern, and yet our great resolve -- the resolve of the international community.

I also appreciated the words of President Obama at the G7 meeting when he reiterated the need to look into energy issues more thoroughly.  I think that during the Italian presidency of the EU, we’ll be able to work with determination and resolve and tenacity.  And I also hope that during our presidency of the EU, we’ll be able to move forward in economic cooperation and also in ICT, for example, and in connection with our traditional values and the hopes that we have in terms of boosting employment and doing this also through the ICT sector. 

So, for all these reasons, I think that today’s meeting was indeed important for our government.  And I wish to say to President Obama that your first message, “Yes, we can,” is a message that we all remember, and we see this as being a huge potential, showing us that there are possibilities, opportunities.  And this is an important message for us in Italy as well, because we have to say in Italy today that we know that things need to change, that people don't need to ask us to change from the outside.  And all the structural changes that we are working on are reforms that will give this hope back to us, the hope that things can, indeed, change.

So President Obama’s visit to Italy isn't just a symbolic gesture.  It is a form of encouragement from our greatest friend. And I think that you are also a political beacon for us.  And for Italy and for Europe, it is important to have future relations, and the next chapter is going to have to be written and I think that we can write that together.

Thank you.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  Buon pomeriggio.  Thank you, Prime Minister Renzi, for your very kind words.  To you and the Italian people, thanks for welcoming me today. 

The Prime Minister and I and his fine Foreign Minister spent some time in The Hague, but you can never get too much of your Italian friends, and we were able to continue the discussion today. 

My day started with the great honor of meeting His Holiness, Pope Francis.  And like people around the world, I’ve been incredibly moved by his compassion, his message of inclusion.  I was grateful to have the opportunity to speak with him about the responsibilities that we all share to care for “the least of these” -- the poor, the excluded.  And I was extremely moved by his insights about the importance of us all having a moral perspective on world problems and not simply thinking in terms of our own narrow self-interests.

Of course, it’s wonderful to be back in Rome -- one of the truly great cities of the world.  I should point out, though, that while this is our first official bilateral meeting, I already had the chance to welcome Matteo Renzi to the White House.  He came a few years ago as part of a group of mayors, back when he served as the Mayor of Florence -- il primo cittadino.  And I look forward to the opportunity to welcome the Prime Minister back -- this time as prime minister.

I also want to say that I had a wonderful meeting with my good friend, President Napolitano, and I think that Italy is lucky to have such an extraordinary statesman to help them guide the country through some challenging times.

Italy and the United States share extraordinary bonds of history and family and culture.  We’re especially grateful and proud for the Italian-Americans who have made enormous contributions to our country.  Italy is one of our closest allies.  Our partnership is one of the strongest links binding Europe and the United States together. 

And I’ve made clear throughout this trip that our partnership with Europe is the foundation of America’s engagement in the world.  It's a cornerstone of our security policy.  So I appreciated the opportunity to consult with the Prime Minister on a wide range of issues. 

On a more personal level, I want to say that I’ve just been impressed by the energy and vision that Matteo is bringing to his position.  There’s a seriousness and ambition of ideas, and I think the spirit and the energy of the Italian people has the opportunity to be unleashed in a way that will be good for Italy, but it will also be good for Europe.  And so it's wonderful to see this new generation of leadership coming to the fore.

As the Prime Minister indicated, we focused on the situation in Ukraine -- something I've been talking about over the last three days -- and we continue to see international unity in the face of a violation of international law and Ukraine’s territorial integrity.  The IMF's announcement today that it reached a preliminary agreement with Ukraine on a loan program is a major step forward.  This significant package of support is going to help Ukraine stabilize its economy and meet the needs of the Ukrainian people over the long term because it provides the prospect for true growth.  It will require some structural reforms, but it also means that Ukraine can go on a path that countries like Poland have been able to embark on and seen incredible growth over the last several years. 

It's also going to reinforce democratic reforms, and it should help unlock some $27 billion in international support for Ukraine.  So it’s a concrete signal of how the world is united with Ukraine as it makes tough choices at an incredibly difficult time. 

And Ukraine’s leaders can show considerable courage and foresight by making the reforms that will help them grow their economy, leave behind the corruption of the past.  And today, I want to call on the United States Congress to make sure that the United States does its part with an economic assistance package that helps support the Ukrainian people as they move forward. 

As NATO allies, the United States and Italy are going to uphold our solemn obligation to the security of our allies.  As G7 partners, our decision to move ahead with our summit in Brussels without Russia is an example, a signal of Russia’s growing isolation.  The sanctions that the United States and the European Union have imposed will continue to grow if Russia doesn’t change course.  But as I said yesterday in Brussels, we are continually hopeful that Russia walks through the door of diplomacy and works with all of us to try to resolve this issue in a peaceful way.  And we will continue to coordinate closely with Italy and our other European partners throughout this crisis.

I thanked the Prime Minister as well as President Napolitano for Italy’s commitment to NATO.  Italian forces have served admirably in Afghanistan, where Italy is one of our largest contributors to the coalition; in Kosovo, where Italians command the NATO force.  I would add that Italy both commands and contributes a large number of peacekeepers to the U.N. force in Lebanon.  And at the Nuclear Security Summit this week, we announced the complete removal of Italy’s excess highly enriched uranium so it can be eliminated.  And this was a critical step in our work to make sure that dangerous materials don’t fall into the hands of terrorists.  And it’s one more example of Italian leadership across the board.

We discussed the need to boost economic growth on both sides of the Atlantic so that we’re creating jobs for our people, especially young people.  And that’s why, in addition to the kinds of steps that the Prime Minister has outlined and that he plans to pursue internally, we have an opportunity also to move forward with a Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership that can actually boost growth and investment not just for large, but also for small- and medium-sized businesses on both sides of the Atlantic.

I commended Prime Minister Renzi for his efforts to make it easier for Italian companies to hire more workers and to make the Italian economy more competitive.  And I know that a lot more remains to be done.  There are going to be tough choices, but as Italy moves forward and makes the hard decisions, the United States will continue to stand with you.

Finally, we discussed some broader global issues.  Italy played a critical role in the NATO air campaign to protect the Libyan people three years ago.  We’re now going to be working together to make sure that they can develop the security forces that can restore order to Libya and make sure that they have a government that is actually serving the Libyan people. 

The entire world appreciates the vital role Italy will play in the international effort to destroy Syria’s chemical weapons. It’s an Italian port where chemicals from Syria’s stockpile will be unloaded and transferred to U.S. ships for elimination.  And this is another example of how we work together not just for ourselves but for the world. 

And we are all looking forward to being back in Italy, in Milan, hosting the World -- or being part of the World Exposition next year that Italy is hosting.  I’m proud to announce today that the United States will participate in the Expo.  And together with our partners, we’re going to put together an outstanding USA pavilion that showcases American innovation to improve agriculture and nutrition and the health of people around the globe.  I know the Milan Expo is going to engage and educate the world as only Italy can.  And I will tell you that I already have some volunteers from my staff who want to go and really make sure that the Expo goes smoothly.  (Laughter.)  I suspect that some restaurants and shopping may somewhere be in their agenda.

So, Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your friendship and your leadership.  I’m confident that together we can build on the progress that we’ve already made, and I’m even more confident that the bonds between our two nations will continue to grow, rooted in the enduring friendship between our two peoples. 

Molte grazie.

PRIME MINISTER RENZI:  Grazie.  Thank you so much, Mr. President.  Thank you so much also for the shopping and the food -- it’s absolutely important for our economy.  (Laughter.)

Questions?  Okay.  From America -- okay.  TG1.

Q    (As interpreted.)  Good afternoon.  Prime Minister Renzi, you said a moment ago that you will be -- you are committed to creating a new Europe with less austerity and more growth, less bureaucracy, and we have to be closer to the people. Now, is there an American model to be followed here?  Are you asking the U.S. to support this effort by Italy to change, modify the European policies in the economic field?  And what kind of Europe would you like to see for better cooperation in the economic field and also in the defense field, which you mentioned yesterday?  Thank you.

PRIME MINISTER RENZI:  (As interpreted.)  Italy’s first effort is going to be to change Italy.  Italy doesn’t have alibis any longer.  Italy mustn’t think that its own problems and its opportunities will come from the outside, from Europe or the U.S. We have to change ourselves.  We are a great country and we are able to change.  We have to reduce our oppressing bureaucracy.  We have to reduce, downsize our political class and the costs.  And we have to work on our labor market, because our international investors have to know that this is a great place for their ideas and their businesses to grow. 

So this is why we say to Italians and to all our fellow citizens that we shouldn’t be looking for an excuse.  Nobody is going to do this from the outside.  We have to change ourselves from within.  And, of course, if we have that credibility which is needed, if we believe in ourselves, then Europe is going to have to focus more on growth and less on bureaucracy.  I think that this is how it should be.  And I spoke to Angela Merkel, François Hollande, David Cameron about this.  We will be discussing this during our semester of presidency.

So can the U.S. be a model -- you asked that.  Of course.

Over the years, under the leadership of President Obama, the United States has chosen an ambitious course.  They have been rebuilding their economy in America.  In fact, that’s a message that we’ve received.  We decided to call our measures “Jobs Act.” This is the same term used in the U.S., more or less, and this is a way of helping youth have more credibility, have more space, more room; we have to make sure that our investors want to come. So, of course, the U.S. can be seen as a model.

And the important point is that Italy has to do its homework.  In other words, Italy must finally put into practice the structural reforms that we’ve been waiting for, for the past 20 years.  And my government and our credibility over the next four years is going to come from that.  We want to change ourselves, and clearly we’re doing it in an interconnected, global world.  We know that Europe has to think a bit more about the future and a bit less about the past.  And the friendship and cooperation and partnership with the U.S., therefore, are an unrelinquishable beacon for us.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  Well, before I talk about the future, let me just talk about the recent past, because I think that Europe has taken some important steps and they deserve credit.  As recently as a year and a half, two years ago, we were very worried about the euro spinning out of control.  There were enormous challenges across the board.  I think because of strong coordination within the Eurozone, because of some smart actions by the European Central Bank, the financial situation has stabilized. 

I also think that there were countries that were under enormous market pressure; borrowing rates were skyrocketing.  And because of some tough decisions, you’ve seen those -- the ability of countries to borrow on the international markets stabilizing. All that was necessary and it was important, and it could not have happened had it not been for a coordinated response among a lot of European leaders.  We’ve also seen some movement towards banking union, which I think is helpful.  And there are some other multilateral reforms that are taking place that we have encouraged.

Now, having said that, what is also true is, is that Europe’s growth is still very slow and its unemployment rate is still very high.  And nobody knows that better than Prime Minister Renzi.  That’s part of his mission, is to reinvigorate the Italian economy.  Each country is going to have a different set of issues that it’s going to have to address because each country has both strengths and weaknesses in their economy.  And I think that Prime Minister Renzi has identified some of the structural reforms that Italy needs to engage in, in order for it to be more competitive and more successful.  And I’m confident that he’s going to be able to move Italy forward, in part because Italy is ready to move forward.

As far as Europe as a whole, I do think that the old debate about growth versus austerity is a sterile debate.  I think you need to have your public finances in order, but you also have to grow.  And the more you grow, the easier it is to get your public finances in order.  There are different capacities within Europe. And I’ve said before, and I will repeat again, that those countries that have substantial surpluses have more room to help boost European-wide demand.  And that, in turn, will help countries that are still in deficit.  That will lift Europe as a whole, and that means that everybody is growing.

And so in my conversations with President Barroso and Van Rompuy yesterday at the European Union, I encouraged them to continue to identify ways in which countries with surpluses can do more to boost demand while still being prudent about their public finances. 

The last point I guess I would make is, in terms of the United States and how we can be helpful, part of it is us making sure that we’re taking care of our own issues.  It’s not as if we don’t have a lot of work to do ourselves.  We’ve grown faster than Europe and I think we recovered in part because we took some smart steps, but we also have some fundamental problems that many advanced nations face and that, in fact, I have discussed with His Holiness, Pope Francis this morning, and that is an increasing tendency in the world economy for those who benefit from globalization and technology to do better than ever before

-- those at the top; those at the bottom or in the middle having more and more problems, in part because perhaps their jobs have been rendered obsolete, in part because it’s very difficult to see wages increase.  Companies feel as if they can always move if labor makes too great a demand on wage increases or salary increases. 

And so, all of us are seeing some structural problems in this new economy.  And that means we've got to redouble our efforts to educate our young people; to make sure that we have the capacity to provide skills to our workers -- if they lose their jobs they can transition quickly; that we have a strong baseline of social support for people if they end up transitioning out of jobs; that we're paying more attention to opening up opportunity for people who’ve been locked out, particularly young people.

Because as I mentioned to the Prime Minister, one of the tragedies of high youth unemployment is that when young people don't have a strong attachment to the labor market early, that can continue for the rest of their careers and they never fully recoup what’s lost in terms of their potential earnings and their ability to advance in the labor market.

So we can't afford to have years and years of young people who are drifting, working part-time, not able to develop the kinds of careers and skills that will allow them to succeed in the future.  That has to be a priority.  And I know Prime Minister Renzi is focused on it.

Jim Acosta, CNN.

Q    Thank you very much, Mr. President.  Grazie, Mr. Prime Minister. 

Mr. President, in your meeting with His Holiness, Pope Francis, did he register any objections with you about the contraception coverage mandate in the Affordable Care Act or your efforts to advance the rights of gays and lesbians in the United States that worry so many Catholics?  And what were his concerns?

And on Russia, with reports of troops building on the Ukrainian border, by taking the military option off the table are you sending a signal to Vladimir Putin that other parts of Ukraine are his for the taking?  And why not send multinational peacekeepers to the Ukrainian border as a deterrent?

And to you, Mr. Prime Minister, the President said yesterday that the U.S. would defend any NATO ally.  Are you making that same commitment when it comes to Russia?

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  That's a lot of questions there, Jim.  (Laughter.)  Do the Italian journalists, by the way, do this -- these sort of five-part questions?  (Laughter.)  Same thing?

PRIME MINISTER RENZI:  The same multi Italian journalism.  (Laughter.) 

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  All right, let me try to remember this.  In terms of the meeting with His Holiness, Pope Francis, we had a wide-ranging discussion.  I would say that the largest bulk of the time was discussing two central concerns of his.  One is the issue of the poor, the marginalized, those without opportunity, and growing inequality. 

And those of us as politicians have the task of trying to come up with policies to address issues, but His Holiness has the capacity to open people’s eyes and make sure they’re seeing that this is an issue.  And he’s discussed in the past I think the dangers of indifference or cynicism when it comes to our ability to reach out to those less fortunate or those locked out of opportunity.

And then we spent a lot of time talking about the challenges of conflict and how elusive peace is around the world.  There was some specific focus on the Middle East where His Holiness has a deep interest in the Israeli-Palestinian issue, but also what’s happening in Syria, what’s happening in Lebanon, and the potential persecution of Christians.  And I reaffirmed that it is central to U.S. foreign policy that we protect the interests of religious minorities around the world.

But we also touched on regions like Latin America, where there’s been tremendous progress in many countries, but there’s been less progress in others.

I think the theme that stitched our conversation together was a belief that in politics and in life the quality of empathy, the ability to stand in somebody else’s shoes and to care for someone even if they don't look like you or talk like you or share your philosophy -- that that's critical.  It’s the lack of empathy that makes it very easy for us to plunge into wars.  It's the lack of empathy that allows us to ignore the homeless on the streets.  And obviously central to my Christian faith is a belief in treating others as I’d have them treat me.  And what’s, I think, created so much love and excitement for His Holiness has been that he seems to live this, and shows that joy continuously.

In terms of domestic issues, the two issues that we touched on -- other than the fact that I invited and urged him to come to the United States, telling him that people would be overjoyed to see him -- was immigration reform.  And as someone who came from Latin America, I think he is very mindful of the plight of so many immigrants who are wonderful people, working hard, making contributions, many of their children are U.S. citizens, and yet they still live in the shadows, in many cases have been deported and are separated from families.  I described to him how I felt that there was still an opportunity for us to make this right and get a law passed.

And he actually did not touch in detail on the Affordable Care Act.  In my meeting with his Secretary of State, Cardinal Parolin, we discussed briefly the issue of making sure that conscience and religious freedom was observed in the context of applying the law.  And I explained to him that most religious organizations are entirely exempt.  Religiously affiliated hospitals or universities or NGOs simply have to attest that they have a religious objection, in which case they are not required to provide contraception, although employees of theirs who choose are able to obtain it through the insurance company.

And I pledged to continue to dialogue with the U.S. Conference of Bishops to make sure that we can strike the right balance, making sure that not only everybody has health care but families, and women in particular, are able to enjoy the kind of health care coverage that the AC offers, but that religious freedom is still observed.

Q    And on Russia --

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  There was a third question?  What was the third -- okay, that's right, Russia.  Okay, I remember. 

I think that I’ve been very clear in saying that we are going to do everything we can to support Ukraine and the Ukrainian people.  But I think that it’s also important for us not to promise and then not be able to deliver.  There are ways for us to hopefully influence Russian decision-making, and one of the most important things that we can do on that front is ensure that the Ukrainian government is stable, that its finances are stable, and that elections go forward as currently scheduled so that we have a legitimate, strong, representative, inclusive government with an economic program that it is implementing and carrying out. 

And all those things are in place, but we’re going to have to put a lot of resources and a lot of effort -- not just the United States, but Europe as well.

And I’ve been very impressed with Prime Minister Yatsenyuk and his current efforts.  The decision to go forward with an IMF program with a lot of resources is going to require a lot of courage.  But keep in mind that part of what prompted the original protests that led to the previous President leaving was an objection about the same corrupt practices, an economy that was completely inefficient that had led to a situation in which Poland’s GDP had skyrocketed and the Ukraine’s had plummeted when they started off at the same place just several years ago.

I think the Prime Minister understands that.  I think the Ukrainian people understand that.  It will require some tough decisions, but Prime Minister Renzi is also making tough decisions; we’ve had to make some tough decisions.  That’s the nature of political leadership.  And I think that’s what the Ukrainian people are seeking, is a better future, even if it requires some short-term changes to business as usual.

PRIME MINISTER RENZI:  The question for me is more clear and the answer is easy:  Yes.  Yes, because I think the crisis in Ukraine is a very bad situation, but the reaction of European Union and the United States is a reaction with one voice -- not different voice, one voice.  And for this reason I think the statement of G7 in Brussels and the decisions for the future are decisions very important for Italy and we are absolutely committed in this direction.

Q    (As interpreted.)  Let me confess that I’ll probably have more than one question myself.  I’ll be quick.  President Obama, you said you’re concerned with regard to defense cuts in NATO countries, but you said that freedom doesn’t come without a cost.  But Europe is coming out of a very hard crisis, difficult crisis, and we know that we need austerity in many sectors, including defense.  And, in fact, there’s a debate ongoing right now in Italy on a possible reduction in the commissioning of    F-35.  So how can we reconcile the need to have fiscal discipline and to keep military spending under control?  Now, you spoke about the structural reforms.  Do you think that’s the best way to reinvigorate the country?

Now, to the Prime Minister -- did you talk about the Italian Marine riflemen during your talks?

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  When it comes to defense spending, all of us have to make sure that our defense forces are efficient, effective; that for every dollar or lira that we’re spending, that we’re getting the most defense for our money. 

And so, in the United States, we’ve reduced our defense spending as we’ve brought two wars to a close.  There’s a natural transition.  The kinds of spending increases that we have seen were unsustainable.  And I recognize that in Europe -- and I discussed this with both Prime Minister Renzi as well as President Napolitano -- there are opportunities for greater efficiencies not only within a country’s own defenses, but also by collaborating between European countries so that you don’t have too much duplication and excess capacity.  And, in fact, Secretary General Rasmussen has repeatedly put forward plans for building NATO defense capacity in ways that reduce duplication and ensure that we are getting the most for our money. 

But, having said that, there is a certain irreducible commitment that countries have to make if they’re serious about NATO and the defense alliance.  And I’ve been very realistic I think with my European partners:  We, the United States, obviously have the largest military in the world, and we recognize we have some extraordinary responsibilities.  We don’t expect every country to duplicate exactly what we do.  We have responsibilities in the Middle East.  We have responsibilities in Asia, Latin America.  We welcome those responsibilities, and we understand that that is a particular role that we play.  But we’re also a partnership in NATO, and we can't have a situation in which the United States is consistently spending over 3 percent of our GDP on defense, much of that focused on Europe, potentially more if we end up having ongoing crises within Europe, and Europe is spending, let’s say, 1 percent.  The gap becomes too large.

Obviously, small countries will still be having a lot less capacity than us, but, proportionally to their GDP, we need to make sure that everybody is doing their fair share.  That’s not just for our benefit; it’s also because Europe is going to have its own unique defense needs.

Prime Minister Renzi spoke about the Mediterranean.  Well, conceivably, Italy is going to develop more and more specialized capacity in addressing particular challenges in North Africa or in other parts of the Mediterranean.  Well, that’s going to require some resources in order to do that.  So this is not something that’s going to have to happen overnight, but there has to be a trajectory that recognizes the need for everybody pitching in, because, as I said yesterday, we cannot take our freedom for granted.

PRIME MINISTER RENZI:  (As interpreted.)  Yes, we did speak about the two riflemen who are being illegally detained in India. And I thanked the U.S. and the U.S. government for the support that they’ve given us in this phase of the international discussion, and I’ve asked President Obama to be able to count on further support.  We want the issue to be dealt with at an ever more international level.

But I need to be honest with you and, therefore, I need to say something about the questions that you addressed to President Obama, but also to the Italian government.  In other words, I agree, I know what President Obama means when he says that freedom cannot come free of charge.  And we cannot complain that there is pain and suffering in the world unless we wish to deal with these problems through an alliance based on freedom and democracy, and common and shared values.  We have to shoulder our responsibilities. 

And I think that Italy always has done its share over the years.  We know where our strengths are, what the numbers are, but I think we’ve always been highly devoted and deeply committed.  And I thanked President Obama for having recognized yet again the strong partnership between our countries.  I mean, when Italians have been asked to shoulder responsibilities, they’ve always tried to do it with the utmost commitment and honor. 

And I think that over the coming years, we’re going to have to insist on the concept that was just illustrated by the President -- i.e., we have to become specialized, especially in certain areas.  We cannot keep saying that the EU has a role to play and then pull back, and say, well, the U.S. is there and they’re always going to come to support us in the end.  That’s not right.  It’s not fair.  We are partners and we have to work together.  I agree with President Obama.

  

Now, the issues -- and the President said quite rightly -- pertaining to efficiencies and making our system more efficient, our public administration, we have to reduce costs there and in the defense sector.  I mean, it’s there for everyone to see.  We wish to continue cooperating and collaborating with our partners. And we will, therefore, keep checking our budgets to make sure that we have the resources to intervene all over the world.  And at the same time, we have to avoid any waste -- and we know that in some sectors there has been waste.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  Do you want to go?  You get the last word. 

Q    Thank you, Mr. President and Mr. Prime Minister.  Mr. President, I just want to follow up on Jim’s question on your meeting with the Pope today.  Do you think some of the schisms that he referenced on social issues would stand in the way of you and Pope Francis collaborating or forming a strategic alliance to tackle income inequality? 

And then, on Russia, you’ve said that there are costs of further sanctions on the global -- that would affect the global economy.  How would U.S. companies with interests in Russia and Americans as a whole feel those costs?

And, Mr. Prime Minister, President Obama on this trip has said that Europeans need to step up when it comes to confronting Russia and also supporting Ukraine.  But given the fragile recovery here in Italy, can Italy really step up or does it need to step back?  And are you concerned that Congress’s failure to approve additional IMF reforms would prevent the U.S. from stepping up enough?  Thank you.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  First of all, I just want to make clear -- maybe it wasn’t clear from my answer to Jim -- that we actually didn’t talk a whole lot about social schisms in my conversations with His Holiness.  In fact, that really was not a topic of conversation. 

I think His Holiness and the Vatican have been clear about their position on a range of issues, some of them I differ with; most I heartily agree with.  And I don’t think that His Holiness envisions entering into a partnership or a coalition with any political figure on any issue.  His job is a little more elevated.  We’re down on the ground dealing with the often profane, and he is dealing with higher powers. 

I do think that there is a potential convergence between what policymakers need to be thinking about and what he’s talking about.  I think he is shining a spotlight on an area that’s going to be of increasing concern, and that is reduced opportunities for more and more people, particularly young people who, by the way, have more and more access to seeing what’s out there and what’s possible because they have access to the Internet or they have access to other media, and they see the inequality and they see themselves being locked out in ways that weren’t true before. And that’s true internationally, not just within countries.

And so for him to say that we need to think about this, we need to focus on this, we need to come up with policies that provide a good education for every child and good nutrition for every child, and decent shelter, and opportunity and jobs -- he is not going to get into details of it, but he reminds us of what our moral and ethical obligations are.  It happens also to be good at economics and good national security policy:  Countries are more stable, they’re going to grow faster when everybody has a chance, not just when a few have a chance.

So he’s hopefully creating an environment in which those of us who care about this are able to talk about it more effectively.  And we are in so many ways following not just his lead, but the teachings of Jesus Christ and other religions that care deeply about the “least of these.”

With respect to Russia, what was your question?  You guys ask me too many questions.  I can’t remember them all. 

Q    On U.S. companies --

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  Oh, U.S. companies.  This probably converges with the question you asked Prime Minister Renzi.  We have not yet taken steps that would target entire sectors of the Russian economy like finance or military sales or energy.  But what we are doing in consultation with our allies is to work through each of those sectors and look at what kinds of sanctions potentially could have a powerful impact. 

None of them, to have a powerful impact on Russia, are going to have zero impact on us, because Russia is part of the world economy.  This is part of the reason why I said yesterday we’re not looking at a possible return to the Cold War.  The economies have changed, the politics have changed.  Russia is not leading an ideological bloc that’s opposed to the world economy.  Gazprom is listed on world markets and everybody owns a piece of everything. 

So there will be some impact.  Hopefully, we can design sanctions that minimize the impact on U.S. companies or Italian companies, and maximize the impact on the narrow set of interests in Russia that help drive the decisions that they’re making.  But those are highly technical.  That’s the work that’s being done right now.  Even better, hopefully, we don’t have to use them because Russia decides that they should take the wiser course and accept the offer of the international community and the Ukrainian government to try to resolve this in a peaceful and lawful way.

PRIME MINISTER RENZI:  We affirm our commitment very clear, and we stay strong and very determined with our partners. And so there are values in our country.  The first value is not money.  The first value is the ideal of democracy and freedom. 

(As interpreted.)  But let me say something in Italian.  This is a concept that I want Italians to understand.  The Italian economy is not in any condition to be in a crisis and to, therefore, not be able to deal with the crisis in Ukraine.  And this is an important concept and I want it to be crystal clear for our Italian journalist friends.  We can be there.  We can face up to a possible energy crisis.  We have the resources with which to do that.

And we’ve always got to remember that we may have high public debt but we always have private savings, which is four times public debt, and we have a primary surplus.  We’ve had this over the years at a constant level.  And our economic growth statistics don’t make us the Cinderella of Europe and international institutions.  So we have to supersede this thinking.  And it isn’t only a question of making these economic and financial calculations. 

When during the Second World War our American friends came to fight in this country, they didn’t do it for economic reasons. And when I was the mayor of Florence, I went every year to the cemetery -- which is one of the most impressive places because of the silence -- the U.S. cemetery there.  There were so many families who have lost their young American soldiers, and they lost their lives to defend the values and freedom in our country, a country that perhaps they had never even visited.  Now, I don’t think that that’s a question of economic calculation or cost, you see. 

And, therefore, I would ask our friends in the Italian press to realize that the data that we are working with in the Ukraine crisis and in the crisis with Russia aren’t only based on economic considerations.  And this is why the relations and our friendship with the United States of America have trade implications.  And I think that during the European semester of presidency, we have to come to an agreement -- hopefully, we’ll manage to do this and maybe it will come in 2015 if we don’t manage to do it during the Italian presidency -- so I was saying we come to an agreement on the trade agreement with the United States. 

But what I’m trying to say -- and this is why I wish to thank President Obama -- is that there are shared values.  In just a moment, President Obama will be making a private visit in some of the most beautiful places in Rome, extraordinary places. Those beautiful and extraordinary places in Rome are -- well, if they had been created today there would have been some bureaucrats saying, no, we’re spending too much money, we’re not creating the right thing.  Those are places of beauty, you see, that have a huge impact of huge importance.  And those are the places that don’t make our country an economic superpower, but a cultural superpower.

So with the same kind of commitment with which we defend our past, we wish to build our future together with our allies.  So I think we have to be a bit bolder, a bit more enthusiastic.  And if you don’t mind my saying this, we need to be a bit more ambitious, because I think that today Italy needs to start dreaming bigger than it has up to now. 

Thank you.

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Statement by the President on the Passing of Former U.S. Senator Jeremiah Denton

Jeremiah Denton bravely served his country as a naval aviator in Vietnam and went on to represent the people of Alabama in the U.S. Senate.  After his aircraft was shot down by enemy fire in North Vietnam, he spent nearly eight years as a prisoner of war.  One of the highest-ranking officers to be taken prisoner in Vietnam, he endured torture, starvation, and years of solitary confinement with extraordinary fortitude.  The valor that he and his fellow POWs displayed was deeply inspiring to our nation at the time, and it continues to inspire our brave men and women who serve today.  As Senator, he served as a strong advocate for our national security.  He leaves behind a legacy of heroic service to his country, and Michelle and I send our condolences to the Denton family.

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Readout of the President’s Call with President Putin

President Putin called President Obama today to discuss the U.S. proposal for a diplomatic resolution to the crisis in Ukraine, which Secretary Kerry had again presented to Foreign Minister Lavrov at the meeting at the Hague earlier this week, and which we developed following U.S. consultations with our Ukrainian and European partners.  President Obama suggested that Russia put a concrete response in writing and the presidents agreed that Kerry and Lavrov would meet to discuss next steps.

President Obama noted that the Ukrainian government continues to take a restrained and de-escalatory approach to the crisis and is moving ahead with constitutional reform and democratic elections, and urged Russia to support this process and avoid further provocations, including the buildup of forces on its border with Ukraine.

President Obama underscored to President Putin that the United States continues to support a diplomatic  path in close consultation with the Government of Ukraine and in support of the Ukrainian people with the aim of de-escalation of the crisis.  President Obama made clear that this remains possible only if Russia pulls back its troops and does not take any steps to further violate Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty.  President Obama reiterated that the United States has strongly opposed the actions that Russia has already taken to violate Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

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President Obama Announces Presidential Delegation to the Republic of Rwanda to attend the 20th Commemoration of the Rwandan Genocide

President Barack Obama today announced the designation of a Presidential Delegation to the Republic of Rwanda to attend the 20th Commemoration of the Rwandan Genocide on April 7, 2014.

The Honorable Samantha Power, United States Ambassador to the United Nations, will lead the delegation.

Members of the Presidential Delegation:

The Honorable Donald W. Koran, United States Ambassador to the Republic of Rwanda, Department of State

The Honorable Karen Bass, Member of the United States House of Representatives (CA-37)

The Honorable Linda Thomas-Greenfield, Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs

The Honorable Stephen J. Rapp, Ambassador-at-Large for Global Criminal Justice, Department of State

The Honorable Russell Feingold, Special Representative for the African Great Lakes Region and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Department of State 

The Honorable Michael Gerson, Senior Fellow at the ONE Campaign and Columnist for the Washington Post

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Presidential Proclamation -- Cesar Chavez Day, 2014

CESAR CHAVEZ DAY, 2014

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BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

A PROCLAMATION

On Cesar Chavez Day, we celebrate one of America's greatest champions for social justice. Raised into the life of a migrant farm worker, he toiled alongside men, women, and children who performed daily, backbreaking labor for meager pay and in deplorable conditions. They were exposed to dangerous pesticides and denied the most basic protections, including minimum wages, health care, and access to drinking water. Cesar Chavez devoted his life to correcting these injustices, to reminding us that every job has dignity, every life has value, and everyone -- no matter who you are, what you look like, or where you come from -- should have the chance to get ahead.

After returning from naval service during World War II, Cesar Chavez fought for freedom in American agricultural fields. Alongside Dolores Huerta, he founded the United Farm Workers, and through decades of tireless organizing, even in the face of intractable opposition, he grew a movement to advance "La Causa" across the country. In 1966, he led a march that began in Delano, California, with a handful of activists and ended in Sacramento with a crowd 10,000 strong. A grape boycott eventually drew 17 million supporters nationwide, forcing growers to accept some of the first farm worker contracts in history. A generation of organizers rose to carry that legacy forward.

The values Cesar Chavez lived by guide us still. As we push to fix a broken immigration system, protect the right to unionize, advance social justice for young men of color, and build ladders of opportunity for every American to climb, we recall his resilience through setbacks, his refusal to scale back his dreams. When we organize against income inequality and fight to raise the minimum wage -- because no one who works full time should have to live in poverty -- we draw strength from his vision and example.

Throughout his lifelong struggle, Cesar Chavez never forgot who he was fighting for. "What [the growers] don't know," he said, "is that it's not bananas or grapes or lettuce. It's people." Today, let us honor Cesar Chavez and those who marched with him by meeting our obligations to one another. I encourage Americans to make this a national day of service and education by speaking out, organizing, and participating in service projects to improve lives in their communities. Let us remember that when we lift each other up, when we speak with one voice, we have the power to build a better world.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim March 31, 2014, as Cesar Chavez Day. I call upon all Americans to observe this day with appropriate service, community, and education programs to honor Cesar Chavez's enduring legacy.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this  twenty-eighth day of March, in the year of our Lord two thousand fourteen, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-eighth.

BARACK OBAMA